Ari Whitten on Fighting Fatigue & Anxiety


245: Ari Whitten on Fighting Fatigue and Anxiety With Sauna, Hormesis, NRF2 & Sun Exposure


Ari Whitten on Fighting Fatigue and Anxiety With Sauna, Hormesis, NRF2, & Sun Exposure

If I gave out an award for the most popular guest of all time, it would have to go to Ari Whitten! This may seem ironic since he’s not a mom, but Ari is pretty much a limitless source of knowledge on so many topics that affect families today. Case in point: he researched and created a system called The Energy Blueprint for fighting fatigue and increasing energy levels… something all of us as moms could certainly use help with!

Today we go deep on the best tools for improving overall health and vitality, and it’s not just the usual diet and exercise advice. Drawing on 20 years of studying and teaching health science, Ari explains why saunas are literally one of the most powerful (and overlooked) “medicines” available to us, as well as free and easy ways to activate and support our body’s natural energy pathways.

Episode Highlights on Fighting Fatigue

  • The real roots of anxiety and depression
  • The reason sauna use reduces cardiovascular disease mortality (over 60%!)
  • A good rule of thumb for how much sauna use and how long
  • Why detoxification is NOT the main benefit of sauna use
  • How hormesis benefits you
  • How using the sauna 4-7 times a week can reduce risk of neurodegenerative disease by 70% compared to using once a week
  • Why you need to know about the Nrf2 pathway
  • How to create mitochondrial biogenesis (new mitochondria regeneration)
  • What mitochondrial psychobiology is and how it might help you
  • The strange links between anxiety, depression, and neurodegenerative disease
  • Why things like fatigue, brain fog, and other problems often go hand in hand
  • The link between inflammation and depression
  • How a recent study showed that sauna use had long-lasting antidepressant activity
  • Other types of hormesis: fasting, phytonutrients for plants
  • What xenohormetic phytochemicals are and how their pro-oxidant activity can stimulate Nrf2
  • Yet another reason to eat enough greens!
  • What you really need to know about the endocannabinoid system
  • How avoiding sun exposure is as big of a risk factor for health as smoking a pack of cigarettes a day
  • Why vitamin D supplements aren’t enough to replace sun exposure

Resources We Mention

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